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Section size for War of 1812 (47 sections)
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Forces	13	5,989
American	2,473	2,473
British	2,112	2,112
Indigenous peoples	1,391	1,391
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Unpreparedness	3,424	3,424
War in the West	22	11,720
Invasions of Canada, 1812	3,417	3,417
American Northwest, 1813	2,780	2,780
American West, 1813–1815	5,501	5,501
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Niagara frontier, 1813	6,412	6,412
St. Lawrence and Lower Canada, 1813	2,514	2,514
Niagara and Plattsburgh campaigns, 1814	6,391	6,391
Occupation of Maine	2,360	2,360
Chesapeake campaign	1,511	6,956
Burning of Washington	2,712	2,712
Siege of Fort McHenry	2,733	2,733
Southern theatre	292	14,865
Creek War	6,331	6,331
Gulf Coast	8,242	8,242
The war at sea	21	21,041
Background	1,571	1,571
Opening strategies	1,644	1,644
Single-ship actions	8,921	8,921
Privateering	3,669	3,669
British blockade	5,215	5,215
Freeing and recruiting slaves	2,442	2,442
Treaty of Ghent	5,616	5,616
Losses and compensation	3,122	3,122
Long-term consequences	1,832	13,325
Bermuda	1,094	1,094
The Canadas	1,370	1,370
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Notes	28	28
References	35	35
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This page is for discussions about changes to the article. There has been considerable debate over "who won the war" (please refer to /Archive 8, /Archive 9, /Archive 14, /Who Won? and Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2009-11-11/War of 1812 for the most recent discussions). Historians and the editors have various viewpoints on which side won, or if there was a stalemate. For more information, see the section *Memory and historiography, Historian's views*. However, the consensus, based on historical documentation, is that the result of the war was per the Treaty of Ghent, i.e., status quo ante bellum, which, in plain English means "as things were before the war." Please do not use this page to continue the argument that one or the other side "won" unless you are able to present citations from reliable and verifiable sources to support your claims. Per the principle of neutral point of view and due and undue weight, the article can only claim a side's victory if there is a verifiable general agreement.

Can we give the americans an image of their outfits?

While the British have an image for their outfits in that era, The Americans don't. can we change that so we can see what the Americans looked like in the war of 1812?

(I'm fine if someone responds with yes or no.) Thomasthetankenginefan123 (talk) 15:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

@Remsense

About the revert:

I understand why it was reverted (I'd be guessing likely due to the "Both sides claim victory" and "Native American defeat" parts), but I don't exactly know why everything was removed?

Even though I obviously shouldn't have added some of the information I did decide to add, other things I added such as other casualties surely shouldn't have been removed? Setergh (talk) 09:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The changes to the result parameter are contrary to WP:RESULT. Per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, the infobox is not a place for detail. It is there to summarise key facts from the article. The article should remain complete without the infobox. The casualty section is a mess and quite contrary to the guidance. Your edits there only take things from bad to worse. We should be writing such things into the article. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 10:45, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So are you blaming me or the infobox itself?

"The changes to the result parameter are contrary to WP:RESULT."

I think I clearly acknowledged that I made a mistake here, don't particularly get the point of repeating it to me.

"The casualty section is a mess and quite contrary to the guidance.Your edits there only take things from bad to worse."

How do I worsen the casualty section by adding more info to it? Is there a problem in acknowledging the fact that there isn't only one source giving one specific casualty number? I don't get this point in the slightest. Setergh (talk) 11:46, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Last sentence of the lead

As of right now, it looks like this:

"In early 1815, American troops led by Andrew Jackson repulsed a major British attack on New Orleans, which occurred during the ratification process of the signing of the Treaty of Ghent, which brought an end to the conflict."

As I was reading the article, I personally found this repetition quite unpleasant to voice in my mind. Hence, I removed the second "which" by separating the last clause into an independent sentence. My edit, though, was reverted for "not improving anything". On the one hand, I am quite willing to contest this notion, but either away, I believe the sentence should revised some way. Daminb 18:44, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]