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What's written: (In History-> Ram Janmabhoomi movement-> last paragraph) :
Following the 2019 Supreme Court verdict, the Government of India announced a trust to construct the Mandir. On 22 January 2024, the Ram Mandir was officially opened.[63] Prime Minister Narendra Modi led its consecration, claiming it to be the start of a new era.[63] The temple is expected to be fully completed by December 2024.[89]
Changes: The line at the end "The temple is expected to be fully completed by December 2024.[89]" is totally wrong. The temple has already been built and is working. cc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Mandir
Precisely. We cannot refer to the BJP as neofascist unless high-quality sources are shown to commonly be doing the same, and I see no evidence of this at the moment. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:59, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I had found it while browsing "World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia [2 Volumes]". I've also been hearing about it for a while and its links to the neofascist RSS are quite clear. I'm not necessarily saying we should explicitly label the party itself as fascist, but when referenced sources in the article include "The Routledge Companion to Fascism and the Far Right" and "Sliding from majoritarianism toward fascism: Educating India under the Modi regime", we might want to at least acknowledge the accusation that the BJP is "sliding toward fascism" somewhere in the body of the article. 1101 (talk) 04:59, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We should at least do more to acknowledge the well-documented phenomenon of them being called fascist, proto-fascist, neo-fascist, having "fascist tendencies", etc. [1]1101 (talk) 05:02, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like it consistently makes headlines that they're called neofascist by their opponents, or at least, in that last case, accused of having neofascist characteristics. World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia is also a good source, not a political opponent. I'll have to find it at the library again to see what wording it used. 1101 (talk) 19:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, should well-sourced criticism be under some criticism section? As I pointed out earlier, the sources already being used in the article use the term fascism, but not the article itself. I'm not saying the article should outright call the BJP fascist, but rather state that it's accused of protofascist or neofascist tendencies by some. 1101 (talk) 19:08, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just because it's a right wing party doesn't make it fascist one. You suddenly came here and saw, oh god it's not fascist how why? MrLogikal (talk) 08:13, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
it definitely has some fascist tendencies. no one is saying it is completely a fascist far right party, but it does have some characteristics of fascism YeezusBark (talk) 02:22, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, this is my point. I feel as if some people think I am being too partisan and so they are defensive. But, given the RSS element of the BJP, and the violent[2] far-right tendencies of the RSS and other Hindu Nationalist groups, I think the connections are clear. I'm starting a discussion on the talk page so we can discuss how best to address this developing situation. Would my critics really prefer if I went ahead and edited the article without a heads-up? I think that, instead of simply telling me we cannot add this characterization because it's made by political opponents, what is more appropriate is to suggest adding it to a criticism or reactions by political opponents section, so that such accusations are properly contextualized for the reader. Another way of addressing this issue if it is contentious is to make a draft of the changes in the talk page or someone's user sandbox so they can be discussed before they are made. And, finally, users could request sources for specific words or allegations. 1101 (talk) 03:04, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was reading World Fascism: A Historical Encyclopedia and came here. I notice the sources from reliable publishers such as Routledge and International Sociology cited in the article use the word fascist, neofascist, or protofascist at times, as do other sources. These are widespread enough points of view that they need to be included in the article. I don't understand why you're so motivated to mischaracterize my request and call-to-action, which is not to simply state that the party is fascist, but rather to include in the criticisms or reactions noted in Wikipedia, an encyclopedia, the allegations of protofascism & neofascism. Is that really too much to ask, MrLogikal? You'd prefer to leave this point of view unaddressed in an encyclopedia that's beholden to maintain a neutral point of view? I'm surprised at how hostile the response from you and Vanamonde93 is, saying I've "suddenly came here" when I'm a long&sky;time editor, or that my sources aren't reliable when some of them are literally already cited by the article as it currently exists. 1101 (talk) 02:31, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Talib1101 Many surprise things happens when you come to Wikipedia and it breaks personal point of view. It's not neofascist or protofascist. Yeah, it's been said as a right wing with Hindutva ideology. But not in terms of fascism. For example RSS in Wikipedia is projected as a paramilitary organisation even though it doesn't do military exercises and not having arms and RSS itself declared as a volunteer. MrLogikal (talk) 02:38, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're misunderstanding me again. I am not asking the article to classify the BJP as fascist, just to report the significant connection to fascism made by scholars as a reaction or criticism of the party. And I'm not surprised by Wikipedia's policies; as I've stated before, I've been an editor for many years. Wikipedia is based on its sources. Obviously the RSS is a paramilitary organization even if it declares itself volunteer. How does declaring itself volunteer contradict its widely-reported status as a paramilitary organization? 1101 (talk) 02:54, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 11:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Partly done: The temple is not yet fully complete. I've updated the estimated finish time to September 2025 per this source. Aydoh8[contribs] 13:40, 10 February 2025 (UTC)